Fort Irwin Blood testing

[Osiris]

like I said the term zombie is an umbrella term and WA creatures do fall under the umbrella term
for the dead zombie I KNOW they dont come back to life I meant to put qutaition marks around the word life but forgot
the three terms are just 3 branches of definations of zombies and there are many branches inside those and our modern idea of zombies actually didnt come into reality untill the 1960s with before that all zombie stories were all of the voodoo sort

I've been watching zombie movies since I was seven, so I'm about as well versed as you can be with zombie lore, not to mention the books I've read and essays I've researched and written. I'm not saying I'm an expert, as that would be incredibly vulgar, I'm simply highlighting the fact that I understand your post and that which you have outlined. Considering that we still do not have a decent working theory as to why the 'zeds' steal the bodies, we cannot say with 100% certainty that there are NOT animated dead among their ranks. The fact that nothing short of a headshot seems to stop them, stands in favour of everything that we know about 'zombies'. I've outlned before how these creatures fall into traditional definition and all I've seen in response is 'we think they breath, and bleed, and sleep.'

Good job.

[7oddisdead]

hmm..

I think the real thing to consider here with all the unknowns is..are the "zombies" alive, or are they merely host's for something alive? the fact is we could sit here all day and argue back and forth about breathing, not breathing, sound, blood, etc..and only work ourselves into a frenzy of words and gnashing of teeth..but until we have a definitive answer of whatthefuck things like "the haze" are..or a few of the other strange anomallies going on..the living or dead thing is kind of moot...looks like a duck, smells like a duck...must be a zombie..however you choose to definite it

[Osiris]

hmm..

I think the real thing to consider here with all the unknowns is..are the "zombies" alive, or are they merely host's for something alive? the fact is we could sit here all day and argue back and forth about breathing, not breathing, sound, blood, etc..and only work ourselves into a frenzy of words and gnashing of teeth..but until we have a definitive answer of whatthefuck things like "the haze" are..or a few of the other strange anomallies going on..the living or dead thing is kind of moot...looks like a duck, smells like a duck...must be a zombie..however you choose to definite it

You raise an interesitng question. Are they hosts for something else. Gives yet another meaning to the title "We're Alive." I've always loved those sorts of movies. Invasion of the Body Snatcher-esque stories that completely strip the characters of choice.

[trubkir]

What confuses me is the jumper that jumped across to the tower. It infected Tommy but didn't bite Tommy. Burt killed it with a shotgun blast that wasn't definitively a head shot. Tommy was killed by a fall but it wasn't defined whether he landed on his head. Upon returning to the tower after "flowerpot gate" Burt used a claymore to mow down a horde of zombies. You can't tell me that every single zombie that got killed was hit in the head by a fragment. I don't remember any statement where an eviscerated zombie was seen alive in this story. Are we absolutely sure that it requires a head shot to kill these zombies?
I can't say these zombies are dead or alive. I just now that for the human brain and human muscles to work they need oxygenated blood to circulate. I like the "host" theory for this reason. The "parasite" in whatever form it is uses the basic functions of the human host to support it's activities. I think this is why it seems that grievous injury kills these particular brand of zombies.

By the way in the story the term zombie has only been used by the tower members. The mall faction and the colony both used "things".

[reaper239]

What confuses me is the jumper that jumped across to the tower. It infected Tommy but didn't bite Tommy. Burt killed it with a shotgun blast that wasn't definitively a head shot. Tommy was killed by a fall but it wasn't defined whether he landed on his head. Upon returning to the tower after "flowerpot gate" Burt used a claymore to mow down a horde of zombies. You can't tell me that every single zombie that got killed was hit in the head by a fragment. I don't remember any statement where an eviscerated zombie was seen alive in this story. Are we absolutely sure that it requires a head shot to kill these zombies?
I can't say these zombies are dead or alive. I just now that for the human brain and human muscles to work they need oxygenated blood to circulate. I like the "host" theory for this reason. The "parasite" in whatever form it is uses the basic functions of the human host to support it's activities. I think this is why it seems that grievous injury kills these particular brand of zombies.

By the way in the story the term zombie has only been used by the tower members. The mall faction and the colony both used "things".

KC said (somewhere around here) that the zombies were alive, but infected. that's why it doesn't just take headshots to kill them, they die just like anyone else, except they ignore pain. that's why they need to eat, like at the nest.

[Osiris]

KC said (somewhere around here) that the zombies were alive, but infected. that's why it doesn't just take headshots to kill them, they die just like anyone else, except they ignore pain. that's why they need to eat, like at the nest.

Link?

[Memis]

What confuses me is the jumper that jumped across to the tower. It infected Tommy but didn't bite Tommy. Burt killed it with a shotgun blast that wasn't definitively a head shot. Tommy was killed by a fall but it wasn't defined whether he landed on his head. Upon returning to the tower after "flowerpot gate" Burt used a claymore to mow down a horde of zombies. You can't tell me that every single zombie that got killed was hit in the head by a fragment. I don't remember any statement where an eviscerated zombie was seen alive in this story. Are we absolutely sure that it requires a head shot to kill these zombies?
I can't say these zombies are dead or alive. I just now that for the human brain and human muscles to work they need oxygenated blood to circulate. I like the "host" theory for this reason. The "parasite" in whatever form it is uses the basic functions of the human host to support it's activities. I think this is why it seems that grievous injury kills these particular brand of zombies.

By the way in the story the term zombie has only been used by the tower members. The mall faction and the colony both used "things".

I do believe that zombies can be somewhat stunned for a brief period. Obviously my friend you have not seen a clay more in action. At close proximity the results are more than what you would think. Also they can dismember rendering the zombie stunned then, disabled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBB3OS0Ir2U

[Cabbage Patch]

I do believe that zombies can be somewhat stunned for a brief period. Obviously my friend you have not seen a clay more in action. At close proximity the results are more than what you would think. Also they can dismember rendering the zombie stunned then, disabled. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBB3OS0Ir2U

I have to agree on the issue of claymore mines. The impact of a claymore at short range isn't a difference between head-shot and body-shot, it's a difference between minced and pureed.

[reaper239]

Link?

i can't remember, but i think he mentioned it during the live broadcast. and i could've sworn i saw it somewhere around here.