Do we have a definitive answer? v.AliveOrUndead?

[7oddisdead]

I voted Alive only because of an "incubation" period that the George Romero Zombie virus seems to have that WA lacks. During this incubation period, the carrier physically dies. WA has no such transition, it's most of the time instant. However, I put an addendum; I do believe that the carrier of the WA disease, virus, mutation, what have you, is in fact dead. In my opinion it comes with the fact that whatever mutation or effect the virus... whatever we call it (seriously KC this is getting difficult to talk about! More DETAILS causes the carrier to be gone. There's no conciousness and to me that is REALLY what being alive is. That person is gone forever. Dead.

Though I voted for alive, I just have to add my two cents that in the end they are in fact "D-E-D... DEAD!" (points if you get the reference).

I like your thinking.

Robin hood, men in tights

[Solanine]

Definitely alive, they would decay otherwise. Also in the chapter on the boat we saw that they could become malnourished if my memory serves me right.

[Travis Sutak]

We could also note that they do digest whatever they eat due to the fact that we have not seen any Zeds with grotesquely engorged stomachs filled with flesh.

Do they share their meals? Or do they just take what they get, like lions?

if you think about it most of the standard zeds hunt like wolves they travel in packs rarely do you see one all by themselves if you see one by itself its usally because their group has been killed

the special varities well behemoths so far have been only hunting by themselves if my memory serves me right the little ones have been seen hunting in groups and them smart ones well they travel with the standards and set traps as for ink well as everyone knows he does whatever he wants whenever wants.

As for the question about alive or dead they were alive they were bitten or whatever happened to change them and they died technically their bodies are not dead but the person they used to be died.

As the creatures they are now they are living breathing organisims they need food to live they still have some things that would make them what is considered living.

[LiamKerrington]

Though I voted for alive, I just have to add my two cents that in the end they are in fact "D-E-D... DEAD!" (points if you get the reference).

The Gamers, early scene in the Inn, when the heroes are addressed by the huge warrior seeking revenge ...

@Topic:
I voted for alive, although I believe it is something between life and death.
The idea with the body-snatchers seems to be at least a valid theory.

What we have with the zombies, are these things:
some kind of air-circulation
bio-chemical processes (reactions to chloroform, hormons)
behaviour controlled by certain "conditions" - the cry of pinstripe to gather the hordes and make them attack, his order to "leave her alone"
some kind of organized behaviour (the whole prisoner behavior, capturing of people instead of simply killing them, applying to certain creatures (pinstripes being the boss, evading the behemoths))
biological evolving/ mutation/ development (little ones of 6-7' in height ...)

But what, if all these things do not root in the zeds' individual motivation and bio-function, and what, if all this is kind of controlled "from the outside" - like with a parasite or nanobots or something? Or in a different directioN: What, if the Zeds are mutated versions of humans making them kind of "fungi"; afaik there is some debate around fungi, whether they are kind of a life-form or something else; same with viruses actually ... All of these things obey to the rules behind "bio", and yet they lack certain aspects of "bio" (sorry, too long ago, it's just bits and pieces from my time back in school more then 15 years ago).

From earlier chapters we know that the dead bodies of people still sit in their cars - days after the Zed-apocalypse started. Therefore the Zeds don't seem to be interested in simply devouring people. Dead bodies don't seem to suit "their" purposes - who- or whatever "they" are, the Zeds, their "parasites" or the organized company/ organization behind them ...

All the best!
Liam

[Witch_Doctor]

From earlier chapters we know that the dead bodies of people still sit in their cars - days after the Zed-apocalypse started. Therefore the Zeds don't seem to be interested in simply devouring people. Dead bodies don't seem to suit "their" purposes - who- or whatever "they" are, the Zeds, their "parasites" or the organized company/ organization behind them ...

All the best!
Liam

Excellent point! I wonder if Tanya was going somewhere with this when she questions why they had to burn Pippen insted of just burying him.

[Witch_Doctor]

It's hard enough deciding on what constitutes life, but what constitutes un-dead?

[LiamKerrington]

It's hard enough deciding on what constitutes life, but what constitutes un-dead?

I really have no clue. But from a legal point of view there are legal-scientists around - like Adam Chodorow - which propose creating special tax-laws for the undead, since they somewhere between the living and the dead ...
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...act_id=2045255

edit: And this paper really is amazing to read ... It covers some basic tax-related questions aiming at zombies, but also about ghosts and vampires ...

All the best!
Liam

[Tielurrdee]

Well um KC gave it away on his interview with radio drama revival if you check it out you will catch that he specificity something about he wanted to make a zombie podcast with alive zombies. You know I was pretty positive there alive based on the title of the story being were alive. I always saw it as a double for the tower saying were alive and the zombies being alive.

[Osiris]

Well um KC gave it away on his interview with radio drama revival if you check it out you will catch that he specificity something about he wanted to make a zombie podcast with alive zombies. You know I was pretty positive there alive based on the title of the story being were alive. I always saw it as a double for the tower saying were alive and the zombies being alive.

Pfffft. Kc doesn't know anything. He's just as lost as we are in all this.

[thisonegirl]

I'm curious about this since the 'little ones' thread, as well as the 'swimming zombies' thread. Has we gotten conclusive evidence that points toward the zombies being either alive or undead?

If not, what do you think? Alive? Undead? WTF BBQ? I want to know!

Well, for me it was between Alive and WTF BBQ? Actually, the reason that I believe they're alive is because, the transformation is almost instant in most cases. There is no dying then coming back as a Zombie. Not to mention that I don't think Ink is a Zombie, he's just a crazy muthafucka that found a way to communicate. But that's me.