Who/What was the Cause of the War between the Tower and Mallers

[Osiris]

Powerful contrubution.

[Arthur LaMarche]

Wow, Osiris, I just read your .sig. I could have saved myself a lot of time if I did it earlier. You are delusional. You can setup any logical argument you want and build a squad of straw men. If you identify with a character like scratch, get some professional help. Soon your vicarious experience with Scratch will not be enough and you will need something even more violent.

Feel free to have whatever last word you want. I am done here

[Osiris]

Wow, Osiris, I just read your .sig. I could have saved myself a lot of time if I did it earlier. You are delusional. You can setup any logical argument you want and build a squad of straw men. If you identify with a character like scratch, get some professional help. Soon your vicarious experience with Scratch will not be enough and you will need something even more violent.

Feel free to have whatever last word you want. I am done here

Take your armchair psychiatry a little further and feel free to turn the fact that I love the character into me needing 'help' and allude to 'future violence'. Makes you look far too judgmental, not to mention entirely unable to argue a point without resorting to 'you're obviously mentally unstable'. Good to know that about you. I enjoyed reading your professional assessment of my mental health.

[reaper239]

But you're completely ignoring the Maller's use of force to protect what is theirs. You are contradicting yourself by citing that fact. They were clearly attempting to protect their borders. Don't argue to support a point you are contradicting by disregarding the actions you are arguing against.

no what the mallers did was retaliation, senseless, and unnecessary. considering everything in the city that they could "claim" for them to go looking for a war with the tower, which is what they did when scratch ordered kalani to fire the first shot, is not only unreasonable but ignorant.

[Osiris]

no what the mallers did was retaliation, senseless, and unnecessary. considering everything in the city that they could "claim" for them to go looking for a war with the tower, which is what they did when scratch ordered kalani to fire the first shot, is not only unreasonable but ignorant.

Granted, the all-out war with the tower may be considered unreasonable, it still doesn't change the catalyst for the event itself.

You steal a truck from my yard.
I try and stop you.
You pull a gun.
I folow you home and burn down your house.

A totally unreasonable response, that I will grant you, it still does not change the reason for me burning down your house. You simply cannot hang the entire conflict on Scratch, knowing the incident that set it all off. There is also nothing to say that she wasn't simply following orders. If you're going to pin it on someone, put blame where it lies most comfortably: with the man in charge, Durai.

[nikvoodoo]

If you're going to pin it on someone, put blame where it lies most comfortably: with the man in charge, Durai.

The person it lies most comfortably with is Scratch. Scratch is the one who had Kalani fire the shot that (most directly....I'm not starting in on that BS with you again since we're never going to agree), and she's the one who defied orders to destroy the arena by saving a tanker for the tower. Place blame where it's due, and it's not on Durai.

[Osiris]

The person it lies most comfortably with is Scratch. Scratch is the one who had Kalani fire the shot that (most directly....I'm not starting in on that BS with you again since we're never going to agree), and she's the one who defied orders to destroy the arena by saving a tanker for the tower. Place blame where it's due, and it's not on Durai.

He's the leader. Scratch is merely a pawn in his game with Ink. Who is to say that Durai didn't instruct Scratch to do what she did? Saving the tanker to destroy the Tower is the result of Latch being shot down in cold blood by... hmm... Scratch? No, can't blame her for that... Durai? No... that doesn't work either... who... could... have... done it!? Blame still rest on the shoulders of the guy who wanted the power in the first place. Durai.

The fact is we're guessing at the behind the scenes actions of the Mallers, since our only concrete knowledge of them comes through their interactions with the folks in the tower. Well, what's left of it, anyway. We can speculate on their motives, but it's still just speculation. Until there's a moment in the story when Durai comes down on Scratch and reams her out for causing all of the chaos on her own, it will remain as such.

But that's cool, man. Don't let it get you down.

[nikvoodoo]

I'll take the psychologist's analysis and Scratch's reaction from chapter 24 over your assessment any day. Or because it came from Lizzy does that mean it doesn't count because it's being told by a tower member and thus contradicts your bias point of view?

[Osiris]

I'll take the psychologist's analysis and Scratch's reaction from chapter 24 over your assessment any day. Or because it came from Lizzy does that mean it doesn't count because it's being told by a tower member and thus contradicts your bias point of view?

Yeaaaaaaaah... let's ignore the world as a whole in that case. Lizzy's already biased, so why would it be logical for me to hold that up as canon? The fact that she's involved on a personal level makes her opinion bias by default and as a result I have to chuck it out. Might as well have Burt analyze her.

Point stands. Sorry, broseph.

[Osiris]

Maybe your next jab will be less 'confrontational'.