Chapter 20 Part 2 Discussion

[fraggot]

To me this episode just fell flat, no offense to Kc or anything but not much really happened in it. Yes we found out that it was Sauls mom but meh. It just seemed to jump from Lizzy being captured from the previous episode to this small tidbit of info about Sauls mom in the next episode.

It really reminded me of the Nicki and Paolo episode of LOST if anyone knows what that means

[mem]

Also, it looks like Kalani's pilot skill might come into play, although the problem of where to land would be a big one. Two scouting parties would be needed; one to the airport to make sure a usable plane is available, one to the area of the fort to look for a landing zone.

i give a nod to WND for their discussion on kalani and what would keep him around longer. i can't remember who mentioned it but the flying thing was definatlely what was proposed to keep the nails out of his charachter's coffin.

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

Wooo! Big ups to the folks who figured out that Tonya was Saul's mom and that he got a lot of his training from her! Loved the Vet angle! That made me chuckle.
I KNEW Saul's butt was fly off the handle and be on the streets before he could draw a breath.

"I'm not asking you, i'm telling you!"
Sorry Ra1th, but your boy got punked! ROFL!

Our boy Burt is dealing with a serious sense of guilt. Great epi. It fleshed out a lot of theories and comments on other threads.
Water problem solved for the moment AND they went back to Burt's shop. No separate episodes, just a neat one liner and BAM! KC's brain is saved from coming up with a separate story.

I think Ft. Irwin is a bit far to travel. Edwards AFB is closer and just as secluded, but hey! KC is Army and I'm AF so we're biased. LOL!
I wonder how Vic and Kelly are getting along?

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

The Grammar Hammer says "I before E except after C!" Just jokin' around with ya

One thing you'd think would have been learned by people in the military: Loose Lips Sink Ships. It's almost remarkable how prevalent the loose tongues are by the military personnel in We're Alive. I understand that it propels the story forward, but good golly Miss Molly! If it weren't for Burt's reaction I'd almost think he did it on purpose to get caught so he could go out looking for Lizzy again.

Nik,
I've been saying the sort of the same thing, but about their noise and light discipline! It SUCKS! But as you say, the story has to move forward. They could as least raid a Radio Shack and grab some whisper mics though.

[Ryzilient]

I have to say, I laughed and smiled when it was revealed that Tanya was really Saul's mother. In a way, it was a touching moment, but also light-hearted in the banter between the two characters. I definitely hope we see more of that relationship very soon.

Despite that, it's likely that the humour in this episode is merely a calm before the storm. We've already seen that Saul is furious over Lizzie leaving, and he's still ill despite the fact that he is incredibly stubborn. The proverbial crap could easily hit the fan in next week's episode, I just have that sort of feeling.

[Kc]

To me this episode just fell flat, no offense to Kc or anything but not much really happened in it. Yes we found out that it was Sauls mom but meh. It just seemed to jump from Lizzy being captured from the previous episode to this small tidbit of info about Sauls mom in the next episode.

It really reminded me of the Nicki and Paolo episode of LOST if anyone knows what that means

It's cool. I take no offense. There's pieces to the puzzle that aren't as interesting as the others, but without them would make an incomplete picture. Nicki and Paolo? I wouldn't go that far

[Ra1th]

Nik, Crowbar

har har har, no one cares about Angel's output because he doesnt have couldnt grow a pair,

what are u guys really surprised? I thought we'd established this allready Angel 101, he isnt confident. That isnt about to change for no reason at all. Angel isnt just gonna grow a pair out of thin air. I'm under the impression there will be a decisive moment in the series where everything will go to hell because they followed someone else's lead instead of Angel's more rational one, and people die because of it, or serious consequences occur anyway. anyway rant over, point being angel's not gonna grow a pair till shit hits the fan and he realizes he could have prevented it by stepping up.

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

heheha and hhahahaha followed by BWAHHA AHAH!
Angel is a follower. Thats plain and simple. His inputs are in coordination with other people. That cat hasn't once said "I think you should do this or that?" He hasn't had an "I told you so" moment like Burt. I'm not putting your boy down, it's just his roll is clear now.
He hasn't been idle, but he most def didn't do any deep inquiring about Lizzy. He should have been the one who thought about reading the log and journal to find out what went down. He should have had Steven's ass hemmed up in a corner pissing his pants. Wait, maybe I am beating up on him after all.. My bad!

All in all, he's a solid character and very well written. I will say this, at least he doesn't hide behind his inadequacies.

[Ra1th]

heheha and hhahahaha followed by BWAHHA AHAH!
Angel is a follower. Thats plain and simple. His inputs are in coordination with other people. That cat hasn't once said "I think you should do this or that?" He hasn't had an "I told you so" moment like Burt. I'm not putting your boy down, it's just his roll is clear now.
He hasn't been idle, but he most def didn't do any deep inquiring about Lizzy. He should have been the one who thought about reading the log and journal to find out what went down. He should have had Steven's ass hemmed up in a corner pissing his pants. Wait, maybe I am beating up on him after all.. My bad!

All in all, he's a solid character and very well written. I will say this, at least he doesn't hide behind his inadequacies.

Ahhhh I hate the world right nowwwwwwww


I guess I don’t really mind angel as second in command, leadership brings a lot of hate your way, and that’ll be a bitch to deal with. But I wouldn’t be so quick to rule him out. To say that that perfect little shit Michael will always remain leader is not a smart idea. (wow I’m really getting a seething hate for the competition, and he didn’t even do anything wrong jeez that can’t be healthy). No one is assured survival, especially not mr. perfect awesome cool leader who will do anything for his people. In the case that something happens to Michael, What happens to the tower? I don’t think Burt’s taking command back, he’s learned his lesson, plus the people kinda hate his ass. That and there is Angel’s quest for leadership storyline, so I wouldn’t say Angel’s out of the game just yet. Plus he has time to learn, need I remind you when he started he couldn’t do anything right in the field, and now he’s one of the best.


Tthis is gonna devolve into World War Angel again isn’t it?

[Eviebae]

To me, the most important thing was finding out that the antibiotics they used didn't work on the "slow turner." They could have used the wrong antibiotic; but something that mutates people so completely(overwrites DNA in such an orderly fashion) seems more like at least partially a manufactured virus.

Plus the show was way too short, only 5 minutes long, right?

And yeah, Saul needs to show some wear and tear.